Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet

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"Mac Kirkpatrick"

Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet/Transferring Data to the VBMWMO

Post by "Mac Kirkpatrick" »

Frank, I remember well meeting you so long ago, glad I did too!!

Below is the response James Wonder recently sent to the R90sWorldnet, I
hope this addresses your question. James handles all technical aspects for
the Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, and designed and set up our website for
instance. He also successfully saved and transferred all the data from the
wonderful website that Darryl Richman previously set up, which was superb,
thanks Darryl. We would not be here today except for all the work Darryl
accomplished for us vintage owners!
**********************

*Subject:* Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet

Hans, et. Al.

First I will introduce myself, I am James Wonder and I am the “tech nerd”
for the VBMWMO and I will answer as many questions as possible on
technology here inline and do my best to answer any new ones anyone may
have along the way as we migrate. I have also copied Kurt Schrader on this
email, as Kurt is our most wonderful forum owner/manager!

Second, for some background, we use the phpBB software <
https://www.phpbb.com/> for the forums and it is very robust with a great
user community. Because of this it is quite easy to add features to the
system, hence we are able to respond to wishes you may have now and in the
future. Over the past several years we have added features to the forum
based on member feedback and I do have a small list that I am continuing to
work on (which includes a “like” button on topics which we do not have yet,
but coming soon).

Third, to answer your question, there is a fairly robust email function
that you can customize to your liking. Please see the links below:

1) Go to:
https://vintagebmw.org/forum/ucp.php?i= ... on_options
and you can customize WHAT emails you would like to get. I have them all
set on! This page will allow you to customize your options for getting more
or less email, hence getting more or less work done…. ;-). The explanations
are below:

2) You can subscribe to the whole forum by clicking the “Subscribe Forum”
link at the very bottom of the page (in the blue area) or by clicking here
if you are already have an account:
https://vintagebmw.org/forum/viewforum. ... um&start=0. When
you subscribe to a forum, and have everything checked in the notification
options you will get an email when person creates a new topic or replies to
one.

3) If you do NOT want to get a notification for everything in the R 90 S
forum, you can subscribe or bookmark a specific topic by clicking on the
down arrow next to the wrench icon. You can also email the topic to
yourself or print it from there.

What we do NOT have right now that you may want is the ability to send the
text of the whole new topic or post to you at the time of the post like
groups.io <http://groups.io/> does. Nor do we have the ability to create a
“digest" a forum/topic update for nightly sending. I will be looking into
both of those as we go forward.

I hope this helps, and I am here (and on the forum) to help in whatever you
may need going forward.

If there is anything you need/want please let me know.

James




Mac Kirkpatrick
Glenmoore, PA

"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue


On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 8:13 AM Frank ---Down Under <r90s@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

> G’day Mac
>
>
>
> was over 10 years, Yikes-----time flies mate, we met 9 years ago.
>
>
>
> Incidentally, will the photos and files be transferred over too?
>
>
>
>
>
> Frank
>
> Down Under
>
> *From:* R90SWORLDNET@groups.io [mailto:R90SWORLDNET@groups.io] *On Behalf
> Of *Mac Kirkpatrick
> *Sent:* 13 August 2023 10:31 AM
> *To:* R90SWORLDNET@groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet
>
>
>
> I found that part Joe, thanks. I think that “some years back” was over 10
> years, Yikes. Thx again,
>
>
>
> Mac
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 18:37 joe lockhat <panhd60@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mac, some years back you were looking for a cap for hour tire pump. I just
> ran across in my collection of parts. Do you still need it to make your
> beautiful bike complete?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023, 6:05 PM Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> All R90sWorldnet members:
>
>
>
> As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago,
> truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I
> was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would
> cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to
> continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen
> beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold
> will mean data will be automatically deleted.
>
>
>
> I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the
> R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano.
> We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep
> things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you!
>
>
>
> I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay
> myself, for several reasons:
>
> No one else sent me any thoughts about this which infers there is
> little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest
> to do about it.
>
> and
>
> There is a better alternative which is as follows:
>
> The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see
>
> https://vintagebmw.org
>
> (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am
> currently the president, the Grand Pu-bah 😂.) Ha...
>
>
>
> If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an
> immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for
> instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell
> area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are
> digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of
> information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German),
> repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model
> information such as VIN range and...
>
> The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions
> from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which
> I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like
> you, I really love the R90S.
>
>
>
> Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative
> since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will
> store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us
> R90S members will post.
>
> AND it is all searchable!
>
>
>
> We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site
> under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good.
>
>
>
> You can join the VBMWMO as a paying member (preferred, we do have
> mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you
> prefer).
>
> Or
>
> You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or
> have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't
> pay to join.)
>
>
>
> If we do this the R90sWorldnet will go away because we will then have a
> better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate venues.
>
>
>
> Please send me your thoughts, ideas, suggestions, anything at all.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> and
>
> Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this
> and contact me about it.
>
>
>
> I'm looking forward to hearing from you,
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mac Kirkpatrick
>
> Glenmoore, PA
>
>
>
> "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
> C. Donahue
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> Mac Kirkpatrick
>
> Glenmoore, PA
>
>
>
> "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
> C. Donahue
>
>
>
>


"Kirk Ratzel"

Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet

Post by "Kirk Ratzel" »

Dear Mac

Sorry to be one of the tardy ones. I’m so appreciative for all you’ve done over so many years to keep this group alive. So you have my vote by proxy to do what you think is best.

In truth, I miss the old “yahoo group” days when this forum was at its liveliest. Perhaps a change will nurture more engagement again? At least I hope so.

Meanwhile, several interesting National groups have appeared with equal enthusiasm. In Spain, France, the Benelux… very cool to follow along too.

The first group I became involved with was the original R90s Sport Owners Club co-founded by Ken Claus (then from Ohio) whom I had a chance to meet in Paris many years ago when he revived the club he formed in the 1970’s. Back then we made quarterly newsletters back and distributed them by e-mail. Also made several group purchases of various parts and ré fabrications. Bill Stevens from Bellingham WA took over this group for years, until as I recall its membership mostly morphed into what is now the Worldnet. Of course there’s also Frank Cachia (Australia) who founded the original R90s world registry. I’ve met dozens of other passionate R90s enthusiasts over the years, too many to mention here. But nobody more than yourself who has given so much of their precious time to R90s enthusiasts over so many years.

Since the 40th anniversary in PA now 10 years(?!) ago: life, family, health and work have seriously cut into my R90s enjoyment time. So for now I’m lurking, but have not disappeared. Hopefully full retirement next year will allow me to focus more on the fun stuff. Thanks again.

Best regards, Kirk Ratzel

> On 11 Aug 2023, at 00:05, Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> All R90sWorldnet members:
>
> As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted.
>
> I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you!
>
> I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons:
> No one else sent me any thoughts about this which infers there is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it.
> and
> There is a better alternative which is as follows:
> The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see
> [https://vintagebmw.org](https://vintagebmw.org/)
>
> (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president, the Grand Pu-bah 😂.) Ha...
>
> If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and...
> The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S.
>
> Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.
> AND it is all searchable!
>
> We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good.
>
> You can join the VBMWMO as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer).
> Or
> You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.)
>
> If we do this the R90sWorldnet will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate venues.
>
> Please send me your thoughts, ideas, suggestions, anything at all.
>
> Thanks,
> and
> Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it.
>
> I'm looking forward to hearing from you,
>
> Best,
>
> Mac Kirkpatrick
> Glenmoore, PA
>
> "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
> C. Donahue

"Chris Perry"

Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet

Post by "Chris Perry" »

Nice to see Ken Claus’s name in your message Kirk, I bought my 75 R90s from him around 2.5 yrs ago! Class act all around.

To add I support Mac’s decision to utilize VMBMWO, been a member there since 2011 (off and on with the magazine subscription - but will refresh that as they need the support).

Thanks Mac and all here who keep the information flow alive for these lovely machines.

Best,
Chris Perry (AKA Zodiac on VBMWO)



> On Aug 14, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Kirk Ratzel <eur90s@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Mac
>
> Sorry to be one of the tardy ones. I’m so appreciative for all you’ve done over so many years to keep this group alive. So you have my vote by proxy to do what you think is best.
>
> In truth, I miss the old “yahoo group” days when this forum was at its liveliest. Perhaps a change will nurture more engagement again? At least I hope so.
>
> Meanwhile, several interesting National groups have appeared with equal enthusiasm. In Spain, France, the Benelux… very cool to follow along too.
>
> The first group I became involved with was the original R90s Sport Owners Club co-founded by Ken Claus (then from Ohio) whom I had a chance to meet in Paris many years ago when he revived the club he formed in the 1970’s. Back then we made quarterly newsletters back and distributed them by e-mail. Also made several group purchases of various parts and ré fabrications. Bill Stevens from Bellingham WA took over this group for years, until as I recall its membership mostly morphed into what is now the Worldnet. Of course there’s also Frank Cachia (Australia) who founded the original R90s world registry. I’ve met dozens of other passionate R90s enthusiasts over the years, too many to mention here. But nobody more than yourself who has given so much of their precious time to R90s enthusiasts over so many years.
>
> Since the 40th anniversary in PA now 10 years(?!) ago: life, family, health and work have seriously cut into my R90s enjoyment time. So for now I’m lurking, but have not disappeared. Hopefully full retirement next year will allow me to focus more on the fun stuff. Thanks again.
>
> Best regards, Kirk Ratzel
>
>> On 11 Aug 2023, at 00:05, Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> All R90sWorldnet members:
>>
>> As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted.
>>
>> I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you!
>>
>> I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons:
>> No one else sent me any thoughts about this which infers there is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it.
>> and
>> There is a better alternative which is as follows:
>> The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see
>> https://vintagebmw.org <https://vintagebmw.org/>
>> (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president, the Grand Pu-bah 😂.) Ha...
>>
>> If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and...
>> The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S.
>>
>> Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.
>> AND it is all searchable!
>>
>> We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good.
>>
>> You can join the VBMWMO as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer).
>> Or
>> You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.)
>>
>> If we do this the R90sWorldnet will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate venues.
>>
>> Please send me your thoughts, ideas, suggestions, anything at all.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> and
>> Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it.
>>
>> I'm looking forward to hearing from you,
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mac Kirkpatrick
>> Glenmoore, PA
>>
>> "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
>> C. Donahue
>
>

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"Jerry Sjostrom"

Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet

Post by "Jerry Sjostrom" »

I echo Chris and others support for Mac’s proposal s , I will also contact
VBMO to reinstate long ago lapsed subscription.
Jerry SJOSTROM, oak Park IL

On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 5:33 PM Chris Perry <cdp888@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice to see Ken Claus’s name in your message Kirk, I bought my 75 R90s
> from him around 2.5 yrs ago! Class act all around.
>
> To add I support Mac’s decision to utilize VMBMWO, been a member there
> since 2011 (off and on with the magazine subscription - but will refresh
> that as they need the support).
>
> Thanks Mac and all here who keep the information flow alive for these
> lovely machines.
>
> Best,
> Chris Perry (AKA Zodiac on VBMWO)
>
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Kirk Ratzel <eur90s@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Mac
>
> Sorry to be one of the tardy ones. I’m so appreciative for all you’ve done
> over so many years to keep this group alive. So you have my vote by proxy
> to do what you think is best.
>
> In truth, I miss the old “yahoo group” days when this forum was at its
> liveliest. Perhaps a change will nurture more engagement again? At least I
> hope so.
>
> Meanwhile, several interesting National groups have appeared with equal
> enthusiasm. In Spain, France, the Benelux… very cool to follow along too.
>
> The first group I became involved with was the original R90s Sport Owners
> Club co-founded by Ken Claus (then from Ohio) whom I had a chance to meet
> in Paris many years ago when he revived the club he formed in the 1970’s.
> Back then we made quarterly newsletters back and distributed them by
> e-mail. Also made several group purchases of various parts and ré
> fabrications. Bill Stevens from Bellingham WA took over this group for
> years, until as I recall its membership mostly morphed into what is now the
> Worldnet. Of course there’s also Frank Cachia (Australia) who founded the
> original R90s world registry. I’ve met dozens of other passionate R90s
> enthusiasts over the years, too many to mention here. But nobody more than
> yourself who has given so much of their precious time to R90s enthusiasts
> over so many years.
>
> Since the 40th anniversary in PA now 10 years(?!) ago: life, family,
> health and work have seriously cut into my R90s enjoyment time. So for now
> I’m lurking, but have not disappeared. Hopefully full retirement next year
> will allow me to focus more on the fun stuff. Thanks again.
>
> Best regards, Kirk Ratzel
>
> On 11 Aug 2023, at 00:05, Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> All R90sWorldnet members:
>
> As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago,
> truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I
> was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would
> cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to
> continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen
> beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold
> will mean data will be automatically deleted.
>
> I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the
> R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano.
> We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep
> things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you!
>
> I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay
> myself, for several reasons:
> No one else sent me any thoughts about this which infers there is
> little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest
> to do about it.
> and
> There is a better alternative which is as follows:
> The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see
> https://vintagebmw.org
> (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am
> currently the president, the Grand Pu-bah 😂.) Ha...
>
> If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an
> immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for
> instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell
> area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are
> digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of
> information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German),
> repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model
> information such as VIN range and...
> The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions
> from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which
> I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like
> you, I really love the R90S.
>
> Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative
> since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will
> store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us
> R90S members will post.
> AND it is all searchable!
>
> We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site
> under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good.
>
> You can join the VBMWMO as a paying member (preferred, we do have
> mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you
> prefer).
> Or
> You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or
> have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't
> pay to join.)
>
> If we do this the R90sWorldnet will go away because we will then have a
> better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate venues.
>
> Please send me your thoughts, ideas, suggestions, anything at all.
>
> Thanks,
> and
> Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this
> and contact me about it.
>
> I'm looking forward to hearing from you,
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Mac Kirkpatrick
> Glenmoore, PA
>
> "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
> C. Donahue
>
>
>
>

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